[mdx] kicking starting MDX for REEP

Lucy Lynch lynch at isoc.org
Fri Apr 5 10:14:52 PDT 2013


On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Nicole Harris wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Many thanks for all of the feedback, which I am going to try and summarise 
> and make some recommendations below.
>
> The overall preference seems to be to keep this in IETF in the independent 
> stream for now, so can I recommend that we agree to this?
>
> Leif and Ian have expressed a willingness to support taking this work forward 
> at IETF, and Scott is happy to support to ensure it continues to work in 
> current implementations.  Given the demands on Leif's time and the timeframes 
> for REEP, can I suggest that we move forward and contract Ian to take on this 
> work and use Leif's time to support Ian with his knowledge of IETF processes 
> and requirements? (and of course feeding in to the spec).
>
> I think I am right in saying that the move to a rep on github under Ian's 
> control has already happened?
>
> I can sort out the arrangements at the TERENA end if Ian and Leif would be 
> willing to schedule a call fairly soon to talk about the scope of work to be 
> done.
>
> Comments, thoughts, agreements?

agreement!

> Nicole
>
>
> On 4/4/13 8:59 AM, Leif Johansson wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 4 apr 2013 kl. 03:11 skrev "John Bradley" <ve7jtb at ve7jtb.com>:
>> 
>>> I agree that breaking backwards computability would be a problem, given 
>>> that there is deployed software.
>>> 
>>> I don't know that anyone is saying they need MDX to immediately be a OASIS 
>>> standard or IETF RFC.
>>> 
>>> When Chad passed the ID over to Ian there were open issues and 
>>> discussions.
>>> 
>>> I took Nicole's  more as a question about funding Ian or someone else to 
>>> keep it current and Shepard the ongoing discussion which has tapered off 
>>> rather than trying to drive MDX to a final standard.
>>> 
>> my thoughts exactly
>> 
>>> I may have misunderstood.
>>> 
>>> While there is MDX support in some deployed software, I don't think we can 
>>> say that it is widely used at this point.
>>> I know we are likely going to support publishing and consuming MDX at 
>>> Ping.
>>> 
>>> I don't off the top of my head know of anyone that is not developing it or 
>>> deploying it because it is not final.
>>> (I expect Oracle or one of the other big meta-data supporters might but I 
>>> haven't heard anything from them on it.)
>>> 
>>> John B.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2013-04-03, at 7:16 PM, "Cantor, Scott" <cantor.2 at osu.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 4/3/13 6:09 PM, "Leif Johansson" <leifj at sunet.se> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm happy to help work on this and if that means taking on an editor
>>>>> role then I'll be happy to.
>>>> If there are people willing to work on it at IETF that have issues with 
>>>> it
>>>> they want addressed, then that should happen. I'm fine with that and am
>>>> willing to take the time needed to ensure no breaking changes occur. I've
>>>> shipped software for years that was meant to be compliant with the draft,
>>>> so obviously I can't have that breaking.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Scott
>>>> 
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